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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2024, 02:08:06 PM »

Steer clear of them Spanish grease bombs, and grab yourself a trust ol' KX450! 8)


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2024, 02:18:29 PM »

Steer clear of them Spanish grease bombs, and grab yourself a trust ol' KX450! 8)

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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2024, 03:24:53 PM »
Ya'll are crazy for paying so much for bikes that need this much work.  :?

I said what I said.  :lol:

You have to pay to play. Besides, when you are an up and coming pro like myself, you have to have that edge on your competition. I know what happens when your suspension is not right, as I can still remember when my bike, due to the suspension and of course not rider error, darted off and center punched a fellow racers bike, which left a hole on the side of the engine and the oil leaked out. Poor guy could not race the rest of the day.

On the plus side, one of my competitors was no longer a competitor for that day!!  :shock: :lol:


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2024, 05:41:57 PM »
my 2023 ktm 450sxf forks seems decent with minor clikers setting
i might try a revalve in the future but im not spending 2000 dollar fork springs

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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2024, 07:07:49 PM »
Ya'll are crazy for paying so much for bikes that need this much work.  :?

I said what I said.  :lol:

You have to pay to play. Besides, when you are an up and coming pro like myself, you have to have that edge on your competition. I know what happens when your suspension is not right, as I can still remember when my bike, due to the suspension and of course not rider error, darted off and center punched a fellow racers bike, which left a hole on the side of the engine and the oil leaked out. Poor guy could not race the rest of the day.

On the plus side, one of my competitors was no longer a competitor for that day!!  :shock: :lol:

My 86 KX250 and 88 CR250 both cost me $1200.00 each and both are stock, so my "Pay to play" ratio is fairly low...how much did you say it was just your suspension mod?  :D
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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2024, 09:48:08 PM »
my 2023 ktm 450sxf forks seems decent with minor clikers setting
i might try a revalve in the future but im not spending 2000 dollar fork springs

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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2024, 11:45:32 AM »
Congrats Pokey!  I hope the front fender is straight   :o


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2024, 09:35:11 PM »
Congrats Pokey!  I hope the front fender is straight   :o



Thanks Lou,  fender seems pretty straight.  Super excited, already order the map switch and rear spring.  I still can


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2024, 11:26:33 AM »
I have some brand new tusk hoops for that if you're interested?

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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2024, 11:56:29 AM »
I have some brand new tusk hoops for that if you're interested?

I might be,  price and color?


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2024, 08:30:30 PM »
They are black $180

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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2024, 10:15:12 AM »
Congrats Pokey!  I hope the front fender is straight   :o



Thanks Lou,  fender seems pretty straight.  Super excited, already order the map switch and rear spring.  I still can

You might want to check out what Jamie at Twisted Developementb is doing with the stock ECU on these bikes.  In the beginning of this year he cracked the code on the OEM ECU.  He can't remap it like a Vortex ECU, but he did a really nice job on resetting both maps on the stock ECU to exactly how I wanted them.

If you have any of these issues you should give him a call.  Bike is 100% dialed in now.

I had a few issues with flame outs (chopping the throttle coming into tight turns and then going from full off to cracking the throttle open) and the bike had a lot of engine breaking.  The engine breaking made the bike power delivery feel choppy and I had to be extra smooth with the throttle to get away from it.

Jamie set map 1 to be smooth and linear with less engine breaking and little more over rev

and Map 2 to be aggressive, less engine breaking and more over rev.

To be honest, Map 1 works so good I don't really use Map 2. Maybe on a track like the Cahuilla main I could use Map 2, but damn it's aggressive ...


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2024, 10:56:48 AM »
Congrats Pokey!  I hope the front fender is straight   :o



Thanks Lou,  fender seems pretty straight.  Super excited, already order the map switch and rear spring.  I still can

You might want to check out what Jamie at Twisted Developementb is doing with the stock ECU on these bikes.  In the beginning of this year he cracked the code on the OEM ECU.  He can't remap it like a Vortex ECU, but he did a really nice job on resetting both maps on the stock ECU to exactly how I wanted them.

If you have any of these issues you should give him a call.  Bike is 100% dialed in now.

I had a few issues with flame outs (chopping the throttle coming into tight turns and then going from full off to cracking the throttle open) and the bike had a lot of engine breaking.  The engine breaking made the bike power delivery feel choppy and I had to be extra smooth with the throttle to get away from it.

Jamie set map 1 to be smooth and linear with less engine breaking and little more over rev

and Map 2 to be aggressive, less engine breaking and more over rev.

To be honest, Map 1 works so good I don't really use Map 2. Maybe on a track like the Cahuilla main I could use Map 2, but damn it's aggressive ...

Good info, thanks.  I hope to have the rear spring before this coming weekend, so I can go try this out.  Trying to comprehend "chopping the throttle" until the neck burn happens  :lol:


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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2024, 02:41:58 PM »
Good to see J.  8)

Pala Fridays, Barona Saturdays.  :P

How many bikes you got in the garage now?  :o

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Re: 2023 gasgas mc 450 thoughts / XACT suspension
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2024, 02:45:26 PM »
Good to see J.  8)

Pala Fridays, Barona Saturdays.  :P

How many bikes you got in the garage now?  :o

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